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12/3
<br>12/2
<br>11/30
<br>4 Thursday - December 1975
<br>338th day - 27 days to come
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Call from <u>Fay Hartog</u>. The French rights to <u>BEYOND TIC TAC TOE</u> are open.
Gave her <u>Jean-Jacques Bloch</u>'s address and she'll have two copies
sent to him.
<br>Visit from <u>Robert E. Horn</u> [address] ((Exchanged cards))
<br>He was primarily interested in learning about the game business
from me. Gave him generalized info - such as M.B. [Milton Bradley] is probably
the biggest and that they do their own development mostly. Also
that the Marvin Glass organization is very powerful. Etc.
His idea is to develop a means of combining sales to educational
and mass markets. I told him that M.B. had two completely
separate operations. Also that the word "educational" is considered
the kiss of death in the mass field.
<br>He was looking for games that would be (or could easily be
adapted) appropriate for the two markets. <s>The number of
players</s> I showed him <u>BAZAAR</u>, <u>ORION</u> - neither of which he
felt to be appropriate. He liked <u>HOLIDAY</u>, <u>RAILWAY RIVALS</u>
(I gave him <u>David Gwyn Watts</u>'s address); <u>FRENCH CHATTER</u> (gave
him <u>Steve Brodie</u>'s address).
<br>Later we discussed the criteria for such a game. The wide
divergence in number of players - 2 to 9 for mass market to
more than 30 classrooms - is one problem. Dividing into
teams is one answer, and different rules is another possibil-
ity.
<br>Another problem that I brought up is that of equipment
for classroom games that is sturdy and safe against pilferage.
<br>Another group of games he felt were appropriate for
both markets were those of Laymen Allen -- <u>WFF N'PROOF</u> etc. I men-
tioned that the company seems to be dorment [sic], not having come out with
anything new in several years.
<br>The new genre of non-competative [sic] games came up. He has been trying to lo-
cate some of these and I gave him <u>Alice McElhone</u>'s address - since she
handles the Canadian firm that puts them out.
<br>When I showed him <u>ELECTION X</u>, telling him it was one of the best on this
subject, he mentioned that <u>DEMOCRACY</u> is an excellent one. Originally
this was put out by Western Publishing but their line of simulations
has been taken over by "Bobbs Merrill" - the book publisher.
<br>He noticed the pile of <u>S & T</u>s and I have him &#35;50 & &#35;53.
<u>Bernie DeKoven</u> and his <u>GAMES PRESERVE</u>. Horn said that DeKoven was
primarily interested in games for children and other group games. He
went to schools as well as having classes come to the preserve. He
likes to graft extraneous rules onto games - such as that the player
must yell each time he hits the bell at "Ping-Pong."
<br>Horn mentioned that <u>MATH, WRITING, & GAMES IN THE OPEN CLASSROOM</u> was
an excellent book. I said that I was ashamed for never having
thanked <u>Herbert Kohl</u> for the nice things he said about <u>AGOG</u>
and for seeing that I got a copy of his book. Horn promised to
<br>(cont. on 12/3)